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| Niagara Falls, Canada: Graham Russell Sits Down to | | | | Betsy: Or 1,200 times. It could have been one person |
| Discuss The Future As Well As Air Supply | | | | who saw it three times.that Make You Mine has |
| On Saturday, March 24th, I had a rare opportunity to | | | | 1,200... |
| sit down with Graham Russell to talk to him about his | | | | Graham: Oh I see what you mean. 1,200 times |
| debut CD, The Future. Graham and I spoke about | | | | itâs been viewed. Oh, thatâs pretty |
| The Future, The Heart of the Rose and Air Supply. In | | | | cool. |
| addition, the interview was taped and is available in | | | | Betsy: Now I started posting the videos of all the |
| six parts, here on this site and on YouTube at | | | | different clips in November-ish, and 45,000 |
| Betsy: Thanks for allowing me to do this. | | | | weâve passed now. 45,000 views. |
| Graham: Oh you are welcome. | | | | Graham: Thatâs amazing. |
| Betsy: I'm very excited. | | | | Betsy: And when I saw you in Vegas it was only |
| Graham: Oh good. | | | | 25,000. |
| Betsy: And I feel very privileged. | | | | Graham: I remember. I remember that. |
| Graham: Oh of course, youâre very | | | | Betsy: So in just two weeks, three weeks, |
| welcome. | | | | itâs 20,000. |
| Betsy: Let me say congratulations. You have had and | | | | Graham: Wow. |
| incredible career and I can only imagine that your life | | | | Betsy: The really cool part about it is that these |
| has been as incredible. | | | | songs are being picked up by mini YouTube sites. |
| (Graham laughs) | | | | Graham: Oh really? |
| Betsy: You are now into your fourth decade with Air | | | | Betsy: So they are being propagated throughout the |
| Supply and you donât seem tired. | | | | world in different sites. |
| Whatâs your secret? | | | | Graham: Wow. |
| Graham: You know, really the secret is looking after | | | | Betsy: On my site I can actually see people who |
| yourself. Not that I do it, but I try to. You know, and | | | | come to visit my blog and I can see what search |
| otherwise you just cant keep the pace up with the | | | | engine they use and what they key in to do a |
| traveling and everything. And I do my little workout | | | | search. |
| everyday. I have to, for energy, and I do it before I | | | | Graham: Oh, I see. |
| go on stage too. | | | | Betsy: And I get a lot from Asia. |
| Betsy: Really? | | | | Graham: Do you really? |
| Graham: Yeah. | | | | Betsy: Oh yeah, and theyâll just put in |
| Betsy: Thatâs very cool. | | | | âGraham Russell lyrics Futureâ. So |
| Graham: Yeah I do. | | | | people are finding it on their own, not just through |
| Betsy: Ok, itâs been 31 years, right, since | | | | maybe word of mouth. |
| you and Russell formed Air Supply? | | | | Graham: Right. What was the reaction when I put on |
| Graham: Yeah. | | | | Lace and Leather for people to download, do you |
| Betsy: Why did you just now decide to release a | | | | know? |
| debut soloâ¦? | | | | Betsy: Oh, people couldnât wait for it. I |
| Graham: Well, Iâve always wanted to do it. | | | | mean⦠|
| Plus I write a lot of other songs, not just Air Supply | | | | Graham: Right... |
| songs. I write a lot of different kinds of songs too | | | | Betsy: I was shocked because it sounds so different |
| and the songs that Iâve recorded, I | | | | than your live version, very different. |
| donât think are particularly Air Supply songs. | | | | Graham: You think? |
| Do you know what I mean? And I wanted to do it | | | | Betsy: Oh absolutely. Your live version is very upbeat |
| too. I mean, Russell did one in â86, and I | | | | and fast and the recorded version is very⦠|
| really wanted to do it. And I had a lot of different | | | | Graham: Mellow |
| songs that I thought would be good on my own CD | | | | Betsy: Yeah, very mellow. Beautiful! |
| and Russell was really very supportive of it. And it | | | | Graham: No, I know what you mean. See, |
| took me, I mean, I didnât just do it. It took | | | | Iâm not really aware that much. Yeah, |
| me a while to do it because I did it at different times | | | | âcause on the recorded one, |
| when we were off and when I was able to. I mean, | | | | thereâs the strings on there. |
| Air Supply always comes first and it always will. But I | | | | Betsy: And there is somebody else singing. People |
| wanted to do this because itâs a different | | | | have been asking who is singing. I donât |
| kind of music and as everybody knows I love | | | | know, is it you? |
| electronica and stuff like that. And thereâs | | | | Graham: Itâs me. Yeah. It probably is a little |
| some of that on there too...but itâs cool. I | | | | bit more mellow âcause I think I made a |
| like that, different music . | | | | mental note, now that I think of it, that live, I |
| Betsy: When will it actually be out? | | | | needed to attack it a little more, you know. Just to |
| Graham: Itâs out now. Well, it came out on | | | | step on it a little more. Because itâs the last |
| the first day of spring, which was intentional but it | | | | song in my three and I donât want it to be |
| wasnât available then. But it is now. They | | | | too sleepy, you know? Yeah, I definitely dig in a little |
| were like a day behind. | | | | more, live. I dig in a little more. But youâre |
| Betsy: I know that a lot of people have ordered it | | | | right. On the recorded one itâs a little |
| already and they already got a letter that | | | | mellower. Because itâs got the strings on |
| says⦠| | | | there. |
| Graham: Yeah, they are backordered already, I | | | | Betsy: Itâs beautiful. But it sounds very |
| believe. Yeah, thatâs good. | | | | different. I prefer the live version, myself. |
| Betsy: Oh, does that mean itâs out of | | | | Graham: Thatâs interesting that you think |
| stock? | | | | itâs so different. I donât think |
| Graham: Itâs out of the original stock, yeah. | | | | itâs that different. |
| Betsy: Oh, thatâs fantastic. | | | | Betsy: Well, thatâs because youâre |
| Graham: Itâs great. | | | | singing it. |
| Betsy: I thought maybe it wasnât ready. | | | | Graham: But you know, but things evolve. Like if I |
| Graham: Oh no, theyâve already sold their | | | | had recorded the song tomorrow it would be |
| initial shipment that they got but Iâll just give | | | | different than how I recorded before. It would just |
| them some more now. | | | | be, âcause itâs now instead of then. |
| Betsy: Oh thatâs fabulous. | | | | Betsy: Well look at how you sound today as Air |
| Graham: Yeah, it is, itâs great. | | | | Supply verses what the recordings sounded in the |
| Betsy: Tell me about the title. Why is it called The | | | | 80s. |
| Future? | | | | Graham: Oh yeah. .Itâs totally different. |
| Graham: Because It is, its kind of my future and | | | | Nothingâs the same. |
| itâs also the future I saw when I was very | | | | Betsy: No. Absolutely not. |
| young and I, like when I introduce, when I sing The | | | | Graham: And you canât expect it to be, you |
| Future live, when I introduce it as a song that, | | | | know. |
| because The Future, the song, The Future, is all | | | | Betsy: And they are beautiful now. Ok, I grew up |
| about my dream and my vision when I was very | | | | with that back in the 80s. Thatâs all the |
| young to be a songwriter and to be in a band, which | | | | music I know. But to hear it now, itâs |
| is the only thing I ever wanted to do. And | | | | incredible to hear it. Russell sounds fabulous. You |
| itâs that vision that I always held and I | | | | sound fabulous. The band does... The energy⦠|
| always kept and I just never let go of it. So that | | | | Graham: Yeah. Itâs very different, yeah. |
| was my future. Itâs not necessarily my | | | | Betsy: I think I say somewhere on my blog, |
| future now. It was my future then when I began. | | | | itâs not the same Air Supply you remember |
| And I used to drive people crazy, you know, all the | | | | from the 80s. |
| teachers at my school, âcause they all | | | | Graham: No, oh thank God, you know. |
| wanted me to be a doctor or plumber or a dentist or | | | | Betsy: Itâs a total rock band. |
| something, and I just wasnât interested. And | | | | Graham: It is, yeah, I mean, it was a little bit in the |
| I just said, no, Iâm gonna be in a band and | | | | 80s but thatâs 25 years ago you know. I |
| you donât have to worry about me. And I | | | | mean, I donât want to sound like we did 25 |
| just never let go. I just held on to it all the time. | | | | years ago. That would be terrible. |
| Betsy: That is so cool. | | | | Betsy: I wouldnât say it would sound terrible |
| Graham: Yeah. Well you know, Iâm a big | | | | because thatâs what people⦠|
| believer in that. I tell a lot of people, a lot of younger | | | | Graham: Well it would be âcause we |
| people, Iâll tell them if you want something | | | | wouldnât have gone anywhere. And I think |
| bad enough youâll get it. You gotta stick at | | | | people are surprised when they come to see us and |
| it. There is an old saying, I donât know | | | | they go âwhoaâ âcause |
| where it came from. It says, âmany are | | | | itâs not what they think itâs gonna |
| called but few are chosenâ. And many | | | | be. |
| people are called to do certain things, but the | | | | Betsy: Hereâs a question for you. You said |
| universe itself thins everyone out, you know, so | | | | that radio stations wonât play your music. |
| thereâs only a couple standing. And then, | | | | Do you think they will in Asia? And Iâm |
| and those go forward, in any profession, in any | | | | talking specifically about The Future. |
| chosen career. You get thinned out and you get | | | | Graham: I think they are gonna play it, yeah. I think |
| presented with barriers and reasons why you | | | | they are gonna play it here too. Once people hear it. |
| shouldnât do it. And itâs those that | | | | Betsy: I hope. |
| persevere. Itâs like Darwinâs | | | | Graham: I really believe that, yeah. But |
| Theory, you know, itâs the survival of the | | | | theyâll play it in Asia. |
| fittest. Somebody could have come along and | | | | Betsy: What are your goals for your sales? |
| knocked me down. I mean, I had plenty of people | | | | Graham: I donât really have any goals. I just |
| that knocked me down, but I just kept getting up | | | | want people to hear it. But Barry, I think, has got a |
| again. Itâs like thatâ¦Terminator, the | | | | distribution deal for me worldwide, so itâs |
| metal man, whatever he is called. He keeps getting | | | | gonna get out there, yeah. |
| up, you know, and then he gets his head squashed in | | | | Betsy: Do you have any plans to release a follow up? |
| the press and he looks like a pancake and then he | | | | Graham: You know, Iâm sure I will now, |
| keeps getting up again and he comes back you | | | | once Iâve kind of broke the ice with this |
| know. Itâs that thought pattern. But | | | | one. Doing this one wasâ¦for a long time I |
| Iâm really into that and I believe in that. | | | | thought, should I do it or will it not be a good idea. |
| Betsy: Well the world is a better place because of it. | | | | One of the things that I really thought about was |
| Graham: Well I hope so. I mean, I always thought | | | | the Air Supply fans. Would they think that Air Supply |
| that, well, I always wanted to be a songwriter and I | | | | was gonna be finished. And I didnât want |
| always wanted to be able to leave something. I | | | | them to presume that. So when I used to mention it |
| donât know if I have or not or if Air Supply | | | | some months ago that I was doing it, Iâd |
| has. I think so, something, but I think that these | | | | say, but itâs not the end of the band you |
| songs make people feel better and they leave a | | | | know. It wont make any difference to the band at |
| mark on them, I think. | | | | all. I mean, they were just songs that were sitting |
| Betsy: Well I can guarantee they do. And | | | | there that Air Supply wouldnât have used. |
| Iâm sure you must know that they do. | | | | Betsy: And you play them during the Air Supply |
| Graham: Well I think they do. You know, but | | | | show. |
| itâs not just the songs, its what we do as a | | | | Graham: Yeah, yeah. Itâs funny |
| band and hopefully it will always be that way, that | | | | âcause people are surprised that I am doing |
| they leave an impression. | | | | this. But they say, what a great idea. And I say, |
| Betsy: You know, I know you looked at my blog and | | | | yeah, I know! And plus, it quenches my thirst to do |
| one of the pages I created is called your stories. I | | | | something solo a little bit, you know, and itâs |
| donât know if you saw that or not, but | | | | the perfect thing. |
| basically I just asked people to send in their | | | | Betsy: Now how long do you think youâll be |
| storiesâ¦how Air Supply has affected them in | | | | doing it live in shows |
| their lives. So itâs really actually very cool | | | | Graham: Certainly all this year. |
| because people have put a few things that were | | | | Betsy: So is the intermission type thing gone where |
| meaningful, maybe they met you at a Meet & Greet | | | | you were doing This Time? |
| and you did something but they talk about how | | | | Graham: Not necessarily, no. I might bring that back. I |
| youâve impacted their lives. | | | | mean, eventually, I want to do all of them. |
| Graham: Oh really? | | | | Iâll change the songs up. Once people start |
| Betsy: And you know my blog just started and I only | | | | hearing it and get used to the album then Iâll |
| have probably 10 stories or so on there but some of | | | | swap the songs around. And Iâll do different |
| the stories are really very long and are very special. | | | | ones, you know. Or maybe extend my thing to four |
| Graham: You know, I havenât read them | | | | songs or something. |
| but I will. I mean, Iâve got on there but I | | | | Betsy: Now does that affect the time? |
| kind of flipped through it. But Iâll get on | | | | Graham: It does Yeah. It affects it. Because different |
| there âcause Iâd like to see how it | | | | venues want different times, you know, from us. |
| does affect people. | | | | You know, normally they want 90 minutes so I have |
| Betsy: You say that you write everyday. | | | | to be sure that I donât take up Air |
| Graham: I do, yeah. | | | | Supplyâs time because I donât |
| Betsy: So was it difficult to just put 11 songs on the | | | | want to step on the fansâ time watching |
| CD? | | | | the band. You know, people want to hear this song |
| Graham: Thereâs only 10 actually. And | | | | and that song and I donât want to have to, |
| Iâll tell you why. Because Iâm into | | | | I wonât pull songs out of the Air Supply set |
| numbers a little bit. And 11 is always a good number | | | | just so I can perform, you know? But a lot of places |
| âcause I was born on the 11th of June. And | | | | donât care. They say, you know, you can |
| 11 in numerology, you cant add it together. You cant | | | | play two hours, I mean our set⦠|
| add 11 or 22 together. They have to stay 22, where | | | | Betsy: Whoo hoo! |
| as if it was 13, it would become 4 and 16 would | | | | Graham: Well our set, our full set, which we |
| become 7. But 11 stays 11, it doesnât | | | | donât get to do very often, it is almost two |
| become 2, and 22 doesnât become 4. So | | | | hours . |
| from a spiritual point of view itâs a nice | | | | Betsy: I havenât seen one yet. |
| number. But the 11th song didnât work for | | | | Graham: havenât you? |
| me, you know, when I was recording the 11th one. It | | | | Betsy: Not a full set, no. Well, I donât know. |
| wouldnât come. It wouldnât sound | | | | Iâve seen the set that Iâve seen |
| the way I wanted it to sound and I tried like six | | | | for the past six months. And I donât recall |
| times, at different times. And it was going to be a | | | | any⦠|
| very simple thing with me and the guitar but it just | | | | Graham: Right, well we are due to change it up, and, |
| didnât sound right. | | | | although, we did change it⦠|
| But When I played it, when I would sit in a chair to | | | | Betsy: Recently, with opening with Even The Nights. |
| play it, it sounded great. But when I tried to record it, | | | | Graham: Thatâs new this year, yeah. |
| it just didnât come out the way I wanted it | | | | Betsy: Very cool. |
| And I kept getting a little frustrated with it. And I | | | | Graham: Yeah, I love that. That was actually Jonni's |
| tried another song and that wasnât right | | | | idea to open with that. Yeah, and we just moved |
| either. And so in the end I said itâs gotta be | | | | things around. We moved the Power of Love down. |
| 10. Then I looked at Bob Dylanâs recent | | | | Betsy: That was weird for me because I was so |
| album and he had 10 songs on it. So I thought, ah, | | | | used to seeing Power of Love right at the beginning. |
| people are going back to 10 songs. Because you pick | | | | Graham: Itâs still weird for me |
| albums up now and thereâs like 17 or 18 | | | | Betsy: But the way I look at it is itâs like the |
| songs on it . But most of them are usually crap, you | | | | second half of the show. Itâs like a new |
| know. Theyâre not⦠thereâs | | | | beginning. |
| no value. And Iâm thinking why not put 10 | | | | Graham: It is the second half of the show. Exactly. It |
| songs on it instead of have 11 songs when one of | | | | starts the second half. |
| them isnât right. But I kept looking at the list | | | | Betsy: Very cool. But, we miss the intermission where |
| of the songs, and they felt right, you know, and the | | | | you say, oh Russell âs gone to change his |
| sequence was right, and I thought, well, Iâm | | | | pants, have a cup of tea⦠|
| gonna go with it. So I kind of broke the cycle of 11. | | | | Graham: Right, I know. But I cant do that now |
| (At this point, someone walked in the room and gave | | | | because I'm doing that at the front. What I like too is |
| graham a bag that had some vitamins, lip balm and | | | | I like to keep everything evolving, and changing. Now |
| pens in it. Graham then showed me a bag of vitamins | | | | people are getting used to me opening up you know. |
| that he takes.) | | | | But then later on when they get used to it, I might |
| Betsy: You take all those vitamins before the show? | | | | swap it around again. Thatâs what I like. I |
| Graham: Yeah. (Graham laughs) | | | | like to keep everyone on their toes. |
| Betsy: So thatâs where you have all the | | | | Betsy: You havenât done that many shows |
| energy from? | | | | with it. |
| Graham: I think so. Probably. I hope so. Yeah. | | | | Graham: No. Feb 14 I started. |
| Betsy: You know I actually have a nickname for you. | | | | Betsy: What, thatâs maybe 15 shows, 10 |
| Graham: Whatâs that? | | | | shows. |
| Betsy: Tigger. | | | | Graham: Yeah. But it took me this long just to figure |
| Graham: Oh right, yeah! You know, I donât | | | | it out. When I started on Valentines Day to where I |
| know where that came from, it just happened. | | | | am doing now is totally different. Same songs, but oh |
| Itâs only kind of happened in the last 3 or 4 | | | | I had the lyrics in front of me and I couldnât |
| years. | | | | remember them, you know. Course I could, but I |
| Betsy: Really? | | | | was freaked. |
| Graham: I think so, yeah. Well you know, I have so | | | | Betsy: Really? |
| much energy from doing the show. I cant just stand | | | | Graham: Well, not freaked. I never get nervous. But I |
| there and just...I mean some songs when they are | | | | didnât want to mess it up. And when you |
| mellow songs, I can, but I get so into it that I just | | | | are on your own, there is only one person |
| have to let some of the energy go. | | | | responsible and even though the lyrics were in front |
| Betsy: I love it | | | | of me, Iâd mess them all up. And I hate |
| Graham: Oh I , you know what too? Itâs a | | | | reading lyrics from the paper, you know. In fact, |
| great workout for me too and I look forward to | | | | Iâd tell the audience, Iâd say, well I |
| that. | | | | got all my words down here, and Iâd still |
| Betsy: Iâm concerned for your knees! | | | | mess it up. So in the end, I just have to take them |
| Graham: Oh, you know, I actually wear a knee brace | | | | away and I know them. |
| on my left knee now. | | | | Betsy: So for The Future do you have any plans to |
| Betsy: Really? | | | | perform specifically for that? |
| Graham: Yeah, I actually just put that on last night | | | | Graham: Iâd like to. In fact, we rehearsed |
| for the first time in months. But, yeah, I enjoy it | | | | last week. I rehearsed a band last week. Just for fun. |
| because itâs just letting some steam off. | | | | For three days in Park City, yeah just toâ¦it |
| But I really like it, yeah. | | | | was, what do the politicians call it?...an exploratory |
| Betsy: Well I love to see the variety. Because you | | | | committee to run for president. So this was an |
| typically do it during the same songs. | | | | exploratory rehearsal. |
| Graham: I do, yeah. | | | | Betsy: You need donations? |
| Betsy: And I always know when itâs coming | | | | Graham: Yeah, right, always! You know, we just got |
| but then sometimes you stop. Sometimes you stop | | | | together and played and we played all the songs |
| and look at Mike or⦠| | | | from the album. And it was cool. Course it was me, |
| Graham: Oh yeah? See I donât even know | | | | Mike, Jonni and Stina. I asked Jed to do it but he was |
| that. | | | | on holiday âcause it was his birthday. So it |
| Betsy: Itâs fun just to see the variety. | | | | was cool. It was weird at first, Russell not being |
| Graham: Oh really? Oh good, yeah. | | | | there, but this is just another flavor you know. But I |
| Betsy: Well Iâm sure itâs all | | | | would like to do some shows. If we had some time |
| spontaneous. | | | | off Iâd probably go out and do a couple of |
| Graham: It is, yeah, but youâre probably | | | | weeks somewhere in small venues and a club in the |
| right, I do do it in certain songs. There are certain | | | | back, back of beyond, you know. And what |
| songs that are like triggers so if thereâs a | | | | Iâd call it is Graham Russell and The Future. |
| part⦠But I never think consciously, oh now I | | | | So the band would be called The Future, which I |
| gotta jump or anything. I just do it. | | | | think is really cool. |
| Betsy: Well, itâs when there is a certain beat | | | | Betsy: Oh really? |
| and when you get to certain points in the song. | | | | Graham: Yeah. |
| Graham: Yeah. | | | | Betsy: Thatâs so cool, |
| Betsy: You know, Iâve been to, I | | | | Graham: It is, isnât it. I cant believe no one |
| donât know, maybe 20 shows since the | | | | has thought of it! |
| summer⦠| | | | Betsy: Whatâs the status of the Heart of |
| Graham: You have, yeah. | | | | the Rose. |
| Betsy: For me itâs exciting and itâs | | | | Graham: Well weâve done two previews. |
| very, umm, predictable. | | | | We did one in Chicago, and one in New York and |
| Graham: Right. | | | | weâre looking for a lot of money. We |
| Betsy: You know, so for me, the song list is relatively | | | | havenât got what we want yet, but |
| the same, but I love to see the things that are no | | | | weâll get it. You know, itâs a long |
| longer predictable. | | | | journey, and there are a lot of obstacles. Because |
| Graham: Yeah. | | | | we are trying to do something different than what a |
| Betsy: You know, the things that just come up, and I | | | | normal Broadway show is. I mean, in New York we |
| love that. | | | | had a lot of heavy weight Broadway people there |
| Graham: Yeah, I do too. I would like to do more of | | | | and theyâre all saying you cant do it this |
| that, you know. Russell prefers to be not so | | | | way and you cant do that. And I just really |
| predictable. No, thatâs the wrong thing to | | | | donât listen, you know? And⦠|
| say. He prefers to know whatâs going on. | | | | Betsy: You cant. |
| Yeah, he prefers to know whatâs going on. | | | | Graham: Well, I cant, no. I donât want to |
| Where Iâd love to swap things up, but he | | | | listen to those people. But it was very successful. It |
| gets a little nervous when, if I start doing that too | | | | was really cool. And the way it was presented, it |
| muchâ¦which is fair enough. | | | | was very different. Normally, thereâs four or |
| Betsy: Well I love it. | | | | five people and they read everything from stands |
| Graham: Oh cool. | | | | and they donât act anything out and they |
| Betsy: Now I have to apologize, but who is Stina? | | | | just stand there or read it and turn pages and sing a |
| Graham: Stina is, she sang on Across the Concrete | | | | few of the songs. But I had five singers and I only |
| Sky. Sheâs the girl singer on Shadow of the | | | | made a cameo role in half a song. But it was really |
| Sun. I donât know if you know that song. | | | | cool. The singers were fantastic and they acted it all |
| Betsy: Oh yeah, I love it. | | | | out. And Broadway people arenât used to |
| Graham: Yeah, I do too. | | | | that. And they were saying, Oh is that the whole |
| Betsy: Itâs beautiful. | | | | show? And weâd say, no thatâs |
| Graham: Yeah, I love it. She sang on that. And she | | | | not the whole showâ¦all this stupid stuff. But |
| sings on my album too. She sings on I think 3 tracks. | | | | you know, weâll get there. |
| Sheâs a great singer. Sheâs an | | | | Richard Branson is a real mentor figure for me and I |
| opera singer, and sheâs 28, and | | | | read something which I usually tell everyone. I read |
| sheâs married. But sheâs got a | | | | an article on a plane about him and it said, you know |
| great voice and I love her voice. I really do. And my | | | | when youâve got a new idea or something |
| songs are very suited for her. She writes her own | | | | new, he says, everybody will say no to it |
| songs too and does all that, but for my songs, her | | | | âcause theyâre frightened of it. |
| voice is great, you know, as a female voice and I | | | | And he said, so get ready for them all to say no. |
| thought it would be fun to use her again. | | | | And he said, unless they say no, youâre on |
| Betsy: Is she from the Salt Lake City area? | | | | the wrong track and youâre not doing |
| Graham: She is, yeah. | | | | anything new or spiritual or innovative. He said |
| Betsy: I know you have talked about her, but I just | | | | theyâre gonna say no. But right at the end, |
| didnât know who she was. | | | | somebody will say yes and understand it and go |
| Graham: I also used another girl, a young girl, 19 | | | | boom! And the light will go on. And he said, |
| years old. Megan Olson (sp?) is from Salt Lake. She | | | | thatâs being creative and thatâs |
| never played, never sang on a record before And | | | | being a leader and doing something that |
| she sings on a song called Restless, which you | | | | nobodyâs done before. And Iâll |
| havenât heard yet. Itâs pretty cool. | | | | never forget that. Cause heâs one of those |
| Betsy: I almost have all of the songs written down. | | | | people. You know, I wanna do something different |
| Iâve got Make You Mine, The Future, Lace | | | | for Broadway, you know. |
| and Leather, Let Yourself Go, Save the World, This | | | | Betsy: So is that where you intend to⦠|
| Time, Our Love and Restless. | | | | Graham: I wanna open it in England, in Nottingham |
| Graham: How many is that? | | | | first for like a month and then take it to the West |
| Betsy: Eight. | | | | End. But itâll happen you know, in its time. I |
| Graham: Whatâs missing? Let Yourself Go, | | | | mean, itâs becoming a lot of years so far. |
| do you have that? | | | | Yep, a long time. But I donât need it to |
| Betsy: Yes, well of course I have that one! | | | | happen. But itâll happen. |
| Graham: Of course you do, yeah. You got, Let | | | | Betsy: So it occupies a lot of your time, |
| Yourself Goâ¦Love Is Warm, you have that? | | | | obviouslyâ¦itâs a long process. |
| Betsy: No | | | | Graham: Yeah, well, it doesnât occupy a lot |
| Graham: Love Is Warm? | | | | of my time now âcause itâs |
| Betsy: Love Is Warm, yeah. | | | | finished. So when the impetus is ready for |
| Graham: Third is Lace and Leather, Our Love, Make | | | | another...weâre talking about doing one in |
| you Mine⦠| | | | Los Angeles, another preview. Weâll do it. |
| Betsy: So This Time is the First Time⦠is it | | | | But thereâs no pressure to do it. I mean, |
| called This Time? | | | | we have certain funds for it, but we donât |
| Graham: Itâs called This Time, yeah. | | | | have what we want, what weâre after. |
| Betsy: And thatâs on there? Thatâs | | | | Weâre after 10 million dollars you know. |
| nice, itâs lovely. | | | | Betsy: If I had it, I would give it to you. |
| Graham: Yeah, itâs on there, yeah. That was | | | | Graham: Oh I know you would! But weâll get |
| one of the first I recorded actually.itâs This | | | | it. |
| Time, Restless, oh Fall With You? Do you have that? | | | | Betsy: Are you working on any other projects?...That |
| Betsy: Fall With You? | | | | you can share? |
| Graham: So thatâs 10, thatâs all of | | | | Graham: Iâm doing the music for a movie, I |
| them. | | | | just discovered two days ago, which is a small movie. |
| Betsy: Do you have a favorite? | | | | Itâs coming out of Utah. And I've read the |
| Graham: Well, Iâm very fond of Lace and | | | | script and I think itâs really cool. |
| Leather, you know, and, but I love The Future too. | | | | Thereâs only I think six or seven people in it. |
| Betsy: I love The Future. I mean, so Iâve | | | | So itâs a very low budget small movie and |
| only heard 3 of the songs, no, actually Iâve | | | | its really cute and very cool. And they asked me to |
| heard more because when you did some of the | | | | write the music and so, I did, well, I am. |
| songs at Fan Day⦠| | | | Iâve already written the title song for it, |
| Graham: In Laughlin. | | | | which is really cool. And so Iâm doing that. |
| Betsy: And I did love Let Yourself Go. | | | | And what else am I doing? Iâm spending a |
| Graham: Yeah. | | | | lot of time now doing promotion for The Future. |
| Betsy: I have to say I love that. | | | | Iâve just been getting a lot of promotion |
| Graham: I do too. | | | | for it. But Iâm not really working on anything |
| Betsy: But you singing The Future, I really love it. | | | | else. |
| Graham: I love singing that too. So, did I play it then? | | | | Betsy: Whatâs the status of the Air Supply |
| I cant remember. | | | | CD? |
| Betsy: I donât know. You played 5 songs in | | | | Graham: You know at the moment itâs a |
| Laughlin but I donât know⦠| | | | little bit in limbo only because we just |
| Graham: I donât think I played that, I | | | | havenât all got together, you know? I mean, |
| donât think I played it | | | | the songs are there. Originally I was gonna do the |
| Betsy: I donât remember which ones they | | | | Zed project, which I wanted it to be a theatrical |
| were. I recorded a couple little pieces here and there, | | | | thing. Not live on stage like theater. I wanted it to be |
| but probably just a few seconds. | | | | like a concept, you know, but I donât know |
| Graham: No I donât think I played it. | | | | about that anymore because itâs been a |
| Thatâs got Lewis Clarkâs string | | | | couple years since that. And I wrote all the songs for |
| arrangement on it, which is amazing. | | | | it, and everything. And Russell heard them, loved |
| Betsy: Which song? | | | | them. But now Iâve kinda got off that a |
| Graham: The Future. He did The Future and he did | | | | little bit because itâs been a long time. |
| Our Love. Did I play Our Love? I did. | | | | Betsy: So do you think that weâll see a CD |
| Betsy: I think you did. That sounds familiar. | | | | in 2007 from Air Supply? |
| Graham: Yeah. Yeah. He did the string arrangement | | | | Graham: Where are we now, March? I think so, yeah. |
| on that too. Heâs amazing. Heâs the | | | | The end of this year. |
| guy from ELO from the 70s, right. | | | | Betsy: But youâre not quite sure what it will |
| Betsy: Really? | | | | be? |
| Graham: Do you know the Electric Light Orchestra? | | | | Graham: People ask me, and it will probably be |
| Betsy: Iâve heard of them, yeah. (laughing) | | | | towards the end like autumn, fall, yeah. I mean, a lot |
| Graham: Oh, theyâre fabulous. | | | | of songs are already recorded. We recorded Miracles, |
| Betsy: I was born in â69 so I know a little | | | | which we already gave on the side, Faith in Love, |
| bit from the 70s. | | | | which now there are three versions of Faith in Love. |
| Graham: Oh, ok, right. Yeah, heâs my | | | | Betsy: I like the second to last one. |
| favorite string arranger. I use him all the time. Yeah, | | | | Graham: Which one was that? |
| heâs great. Once again, heâs very | | | | Betsy: The one before this one. I just have to say, |
| sympathetic to my songs. I call him up and say, are | | | | from a personal perspective I really miss you playing |
| you available to do an arrangement? And Iâll | | | | the guitar in the beginning. |
| send him the tracks, you know. But I donât | | | | Graham: I play it though. |
| send him any ideas or anything. Heâll listen to | | | | Betsy: No, no, noâ¦in the very beginning. Now |
| the track and heâll call me up and say, | | | | you are clapping and youâre getting |
| Iâm ready to do the arrangement. And | | | | everybody moving⦠|
| heâll never say, what do you want, or | | | | Graham: Right yeah, but I bring it in. |
| anything. And Iâll say, you know what to do, | | | | Betsy: And Jedâs just kind of standing |
| right? And he says, oh yeah, I know what to do. | | | | there⦠|
| Betsy: Really? | | | | Graham: Yeah, no we took all the synthesizers out. |
| Graham: Yeah, and itâs great. So I never | | | | Only because weâve been doing it for a |
| hear the arrangement til weâre in the studio | | | | year. |
| with the orchestra. | | | | Betsy: But I love that other version. But |
| Betsy: So kind of how you write for Russell, he | | | | thatâs just me. Other people say they like |
| arranges for you? | | | | the new one too. |
| Graham: Yeah. He just does it. Yeah. But he knows | | | | Graham: No thatâs cool. |
| that I love ELO stuff. All the da da da da da da da | | | | Betsy: I really love to see you play the guitar and |
| da da da da da da. I love all that. Yeah, fabulous. | | | | thatâs one of the reasons I love seeing you, |
| Betsy: Yeah, I remember some of their music from | | | | what is it, is it Make You Mine that you do that in? |
| way back...when. | | | | Graham: Yeah. We needed to, well, I needed, too, to |
| Graham: Oh, theyâre great, theyâre | | | | change it up because weâve been doing it |
| great. | | | | for a year. And every year, historically, I change the |
| Betsy: So your favorite song then is? | | | | set up or bring new songs in. I didnât this |
| Graham: Well, you know, I canât really | | | | year because I knew a lot of people really liked Faith |
| narrow it down because there are a lot of different | | | | in Love and I do too. But I needed to change it up or |
| textures and different...all the songs are different. | | | | it was coming out because I cant, I can only do it for |
| Thereâs only really one big ballad, which is | | | | so long that way. All of them, Even the |
| Our Love. Thereâs Let Yourself Go, which is | | | | Nightsâ¦they all need to be changed up a little, |
| very upbeat, very techno. | | | | you know? |
| Betsy: Love it! | | | | Betsy: What about Sweet Dreams? Youâve |
| Graham: Yeah, I do too. | | | | been doing The River for... |
| Betsy: I heard that one and said I can not wait to | | | | Graham: Yeah, we have, yeah. Well, I love the poem |
| get that CD! | | | | thing, we all do and Iâm not ready to lose |
| Graham: Yeah, itâs...I think youâll | | | | that yet. And maybe Iâll bring it in with |
| really dig it, you know. But The Future for me, the | | | | another poem somewhere else. âCause I like |
| song The Future is probably my favorite. | | | | that element, the spoken word. In fact, when we |
| Betsy: I love that one. You change the words up a | | | | first started that, I was reallyâ¦I thought wow, |
| little in some of your songs when you sing them live. | | | | are people gonna get it? But people really get it. |
| Graham: Do I? | | | | Betsy: People today, people who havenât |
| Betsy: Yeah, a little bit. | | | | ever seen a show, theyâre wondering, what |
| Graham: Oh. Make You Mine, I got a little lost in Make | | | | is this and then all of a sudden Close Your |
| You Mine last night. | | | | Eyes⦠and people are like ooooohhhh, |
| Betsy: Yeah, well, for me, Iâm like, well, is | | | | itâs sweet dreams! |
| he? Or is that really the way it goes. I canât | | | | Graham: Yeah, yeah, yeah. |
| tell. But I did record in Vegas the songs twice. | | | | Betsy: Fabulous. |
| Graham: Were they different? | | | | Graham: Yeah I like that. |
| Betsy: A little bit. | | | | Betsy: Ok, here are some more questions. When you |
| Graham: Well, I started on February 14th opening. | | | | look out into the audience, do you appreciate seeing |
| And it took me pretty much up until now to really nail | | | | familiar faces? |
| the words, which sounds strange because | | | | Graham: Yes, we get used to them. |
| theyâre my songs. But thereâs a lot | | | | Betsy: What would you consider the greatest |
| of words to remember, especially on The Future, | | | | moment in your career? |
| thereâs a lot of words to remember. | | | | Graham: I hope I havenât had it yet. Really. I |
| Betsy: Itâs so beautiful. | | | | hope I havenât had it yet. |
| Graham: Thanks. | | | | Betsy: Is there anything you havenât done |
| Betsy: And, it gets great compliments from people. | | | | yet that you would like to? |
| Graham: Oh does it? See I donât hear them. | | | | Graham: Yeah, I would love win an Oscar for some |
| Betsy: Oh yeah, people talk about it a lot. Ok, so | | | | music I write. |
| thereâs the Now and Forever forum where | | | | Betsy: Really? |
| people comment on it. But on YouTube, I see | | | | Graham: Yeah. I would. |
| comments on there very once in a while. People will | | | | Betsy: What would you like to be doing in five years? |
| post comments on each of the individual videos. So | | | | Graham: This. Exactly this. You know, the Rolling |
| you can always look there for the comments. I love | | | | Stones are our model. We are still young and age is |
| it. I mean I posted up two videos, Make you Mine | | | | just a number. We plan to be around for many |
| and Lace and Leather the first night from Vegas and | | | | years, as long as we can. I donât know why |
| the next day I recorded The Future and I posted up | | | | people think we are going anywhere. |
| that. And then I did Make you Mine and Lace and | | | | Betsy: With all of your writing, do you know the |
| Leather again. I kept all five of them up on YouTube | | | | greatest number of songs written in a short period |
| âcause I just couldnât take them | | | | of time? |
| off. I couldnât take the other two off and I | | | | Graham: No, not really. Usually, they all come |
| think I told you last night that Make You Mine has | | | | together, fast and furious, one right after another. |
| 1,200... | | | | Iâll be writing one and another one will come |
| Graham: 1,200 you said. Thatâs 1,200 people | | | | right after. |