Air Supply ~ Interview With Graham Russell 3/24/07

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Niagara Falls, Canada: Graham Russell Sits Down toBetsy: Or 1,200 times. It could have been one person
Discuss The Future As Well As Air Supplywho saw it three times.that Make You Mine has
On Saturday, March 24th, I had a rare opportunity to1,200...
sit down with Graham Russell to talk to him about hisGraham: Oh I see what you mean. 1,200 times
debut CD, The Future. Graham and I spoke aboutit’s been viewed. Oh, that’s pretty
The Future, The Heart of the Rose and Air Supply. Incool.
addition, the interview was taped and is available inBetsy: Now I started posting the videos of all the
six parts, here on this site and on YouTube atdifferent clips in November-ish, and 45,000
Betsy: Thanks for allowing me to do this.we’ve passed now. 45,000 views.
Graham: Oh you are welcome.Graham: That’s amazing.
Betsy: I'm very excited.Betsy: And when I saw you in Vegas it was only
Graham: Oh good.25,000.
Betsy: And I feel very privileged.Graham: I remember. I remember that.
Graham: Oh of course, you’re veryBetsy: So in just two weeks, three weeks,
welcome.it’s 20,000.
Betsy: Let me say congratulations. You have had andGraham: Wow.
incredible career and I can only imagine that your lifeBetsy: The really cool part about it is that these
has been as incredible.songs are being picked up by mini YouTube sites.
(Graham laughs)Graham: Oh really?
Betsy: You are now into your fourth decade with AirBetsy: So they are being propagated throughout the
Supply and you don’t seem tired.world in different sites.
What’s your secret?Graham: Wow.
Graham: You know, really the secret is looking afterBetsy: On my site I can actually see people who
yourself. Not that I do it, but I try to. You know, andcome to visit my blog and I can see what search
otherwise you just cant keep the pace up with theengine they use and what they key in to do a
traveling and everything. And I do my little workoutsearch.
everyday. I have to, for energy, and I do it before IGraham: Oh, I see.
go on stage too.Betsy: And I get a lot from Asia.
Betsy: Really?Graham: Do you really?
Graham: Yeah.Betsy: Oh yeah, and they’ll just put in
Betsy: That’s very cool.“Graham Russell lyrics Future”. So
Graham: Yeah I do.people are finding it on their own, not just through
Betsy: Ok, it’s been 31 years, right, sincemaybe word of mouth.
you and Russell formed Air Supply?Graham: Right. What was the reaction when I put on
Graham: Yeah.Lace and Leather for people to download, do you
Betsy: Why did you just now decide to release aknow?
debut solo…?Betsy: Oh, people couldn’t wait for it. I
Graham: Well, I’ve always wanted to do it.mean…
Plus I write a lot of other songs, not just Air SupplyGraham: Right...
songs. I write a lot of different kinds of songs tooBetsy: I was shocked because it sounds so different
and the songs that I’ve recorded, Ithan your live version, very different.
don’t think are particularly Air Supply songs.Graham: You think?
Do you know what I mean? And I wanted to do itBetsy: Oh absolutely. Your live version is very upbeat
too. I mean, Russell did one in ‘86, and Iand fast and the recorded version is very…
really wanted to do it. And I had a lot of differentGraham: Mellow
songs that I thought would be good on my own CDBetsy: Yeah, very mellow. Beautiful!
and Russell was really very supportive of it. And itGraham: No, I know what you mean. See,
took me, I mean, I didn’t just do it. It tookI’m not really aware that much. Yeah,
me a while to do it because I did it at different times‘cause on the recorded one,
when we were off and when I was able to. I mean,there’s the strings on there.
Air Supply always comes first and it always will. But IBetsy: And there is somebody else singing. People
wanted to do this because it’s a differenthave been asking who is singing. I don’t
kind of music and as everybody knows I loveknow, is it you?
electronica and stuff like that. And there’sGraham: It’s me. Yeah. It probably is a little
some of that on there too...but it’s cool. Ibit more mellow ‘cause I think I made a
like that, different music .mental note, now that I think of it, that live, I
Betsy: When will it actually be out?needed to attack it a little more, you know. Just to
Graham: It’s out now. Well, it came out onstep on it a little more. Because it’s the last
the first day of spring, which was intentional but itsong in my three and I don’t want it to be
wasn’t available then. But it is now. Theytoo sleepy, you know? Yeah, I definitely dig in a little
were like a day behind.more, live. I dig in a little more. But you’re
Betsy: I know that a lot of people have ordered itright. On the recorded one it’s a little
already and they already got a letter thatmellower. Because it’s got the strings on
says…there.
Graham: Yeah, they are backordered already, IBetsy: It’s beautiful. But it sounds very
believe. Yeah, that’s good.different. I prefer the live version, myself.
Betsy: Oh, does that mean it’s out ofGraham: That’s interesting that you think
stock?it’s so different. I don’t think
Graham: It’s out of the original stock, yeah.it’s that different.
Betsy: Oh, that’s fantastic.Betsy: Well, that’s because you’re
Graham: It’s great.singing it.
Betsy: I thought maybe it wasn’t ready.Graham: But you know, but things evolve. Like if I
Graham: Oh no, they’ve already sold theirhad recorded the song tomorrow it would be
initial shipment that they got but I’ll just givedifferent than how I recorded before. It would just
them some more now.be, ‘cause it’s now instead of then.
Betsy: Oh that’s fabulous.Betsy: Well look at how you sound today as Air
Graham: Yeah, it is, it’s great.Supply verses what the recordings sounded in the
Betsy: Tell me about the title. Why is it called The80s.
Future?Graham: Oh yeah. .It’s totally different.
Graham: Because It is, its kind of my future andNothing’s the same.
it’s also the future I saw when I was veryBetsy: No. Absolutely not.
young and I, like when I introduce, when I sing TheGraham: And you can’t expect it to be, you
Future live, when I introduce it as a song that,know.
because The Future, the song, The Future, is allBetsy: And they are beautiful now. Ok, I grew up
about my dream and my vision when I was verywith that back in the 80s. That’s all the
young to be a songwriter and to be in a band, whichmusic I know. But to hear it now, it’s
is the only thing I ever wanted to do. Andincredible to hear it. Russell sounds fabulous. You
it’s that vision that I always held and Isound fabulous. The band does... The energy…
always kept and I just never let go of it. So thatGraham: Yeah. It’s very different, yeah.
was my future. It’s not necessarily myBetsy: I think I say somewhere on my blog,
future now. It was my future then when I began.it’s not the same Air Supply you remember
And I used to drive people crazy, you know, all thefrom the 80s.
teachers at my school, ‘cause they allGraham: No, oh thank God, you know.
wanted me to be a doctor or plumber or a dentist orBetsy: It’s a total rock band.
something, and I just wasn’t interested. AndGraham: It is, yeah, I mean, it was a little bit in the
I just said, no, I’m gonna be in a band and80s but that’s 25 years ago you know. I
you don’t have to worry about me. And Imean, I don’t want to sound like we did 25
just never let go. I just held on to it all the time.years ago. That would be terrible.
Betsy: That is so cool.Betsy: I wouldn’t say it would sound terrible
Graham: Yeah. Well you know, I’m a bigbecause that’s what people…
believer in that. I tell a lot of people, a lot of youngerGraham: Well it would be ‘cause we
people, I’ll tell them if you want somethingwouldn’t have gone anywhere. And I think
bad enough you’ll get it. You gotta stick atpeople are surprised when they come to see us and
it. There is an old saying, I don’t knowthey go “whoa” ‘cause
where it came from. It says, ‘many areit’s not what they think it’s gonna
called but few are chosen’. And manybe.
people are called to do certain things, but theBetsy: Here’s a question for you. You said
universe itself thins everyone out, you know, sothat radio stations won’t play your music.
there’s only a couple standing. And then,Do you think they will in Asia? And I’m
and those go forward, in any profession, in anytalking specifically about The Future.
chosen career. You get thinned out and you getGraham: I think they are gonna play it, yeah. I think
presented with barriers and reasons why youthey are gonna play it here too. Once people hear it.
shouldn’t do it. And it’s those thatBetsy: I hope.
persevere. It’s like Darwin’sGraham: I really believe that, yeah. But
Theory, you know, it’s the survival of thethey’ll play it in Asia.
fittest. Somebody could have come along andBetsy: What are your goals for your sales?
knocked me down. I mean, I had plenty of peopleGraham: I don’t really have any goals. I just
that knocked me down, but I just kept getting upwant people to hear it. But Barry, I think, has got a
again. It’s like that…Terminator, thedistribution deal for me worldwide, so it’s
metal man, whatever he is called. He keeps gettinggonna get out there, yeah.
up, you know, and then he gets his head squashed inBetsy: Do you have any plans to release a follow up?
the press and he looks like a pancake and then heGraham: You know, I’m sure I will now,
keeps getting up again and he comes back youonce I’ve kind of broke the ice with this
know. It’s that thought pattern. Butone. Doing this one was…for a long time I
I’m really into that and I believe in that.thought, should I do it or will it not be a good idea.
Betsy: Well the world is a better place because of it.One of the things that I really thought about was
Graham: Well I hope so. I mean, I always thoughtthe Air Supply fans. Would they think that Air Supply
that, well, I always wanted to be a songwriter and Iwas gonna be finished. And I didn’t want
always wanted to be able to leave something. Ithem to presume that. So when I used to mention it
don’t know if I have or not or if Air Supplysome months ago that I was doing it, I’d
has. I think so, something, but I think that thesesay, but it’s not the end of the band you
songs make people feel better and they leave aknow. It wont make any difference to the band at
mark on them, I think.all. I mean, they were just songs that were sitting
Betsy: Well I can guarantee they do. Andthere that Air Supply wouldn’t have used.
I’m sure you must know that they do.Betsy: And you play them during the Air Supply
Graham: Well I think they do. You know, butshow.
it’s not just the songs, its what we do as aGraham: Yeah, yeah. It’s funny
band and hopefully it will always be that way, that‘cause people are surprised that I am doing
they leave an impression.this. But they say, what a great idea. And I say,
Betsy: You know, I know you looked at my blog andyeah, I know! And plus, it quenches my thirst to do
one of the pages I created is called your stories. Isomething solo a little bit, you know, and it’s
don’t know if you saw that or not, butthe perfect thing.
basically I just asked people to send in theirBetsy: Now how long do you think you’ll be
stories…how Air Supply has affected them indoing it live in shows
their lives. So it’s really actually very coolGraham: Certainly all this year.
because people have put a few things that wereBetsy: So is the intermission type thing gone where
meaningful, maybe they met you at a Meet & Greetyou were doing This Time?
and you did something but they talk about howGraham: Not necessarily, no. I might bring that back. I
you’ve impacted their lives.mean, eventually, I want to do all of them.
Graham: Oh really?I’ll change the songs up. Once people start
Betsy: And you know my blog just started and I onlyhearing it and get used to the album then I’ll
have probably 10 stories or so on there but some ofswap the songs around. And I’ll do different
the stories are really very long and are very special.ones, you know. Or maybe extend my thing to four
Graham: You know, I haven’t read themsongs or something.
but I will. I mean, I’ve got on there but IBetsy: Now does that affect the time?
kind of flipped through it. But I’ll get onGraham: It does Yeah. It affects it. Because different
there ‘cause I’d like to see how itvenues want different times, you know, from us.
does affect people.You know, normally they want 90 minutes so I have
Betsy: You say that you write everyday.to be sure that I don’t take up Air
Graham: I do, yeah.Supply’s time because I don’t
Betsy: So was it difficult to just put 11 songs on thewant to step on the fans’ time watching
CD?the band. You know, people want to hear this song
Graham: There’s only 10 actually. Andand that song and I don’t want to have to,
I’ll tell you why. Because I’m intoI won’t pull songs out of the Air Supply set
numbers a little bit. And 11 is always a good numberjust so I can perform, you know? But a lot of places
‘cause I was born on the 11th of June. Anddon’t care. They say, you know, you can
11 in numerology, you cant add it together. You cantplay two hours, I mean our set…
add 11 or 22 together. They have to stay 22, whereBetsy: Whoo hoo!
as if it was 13, it would become 4 and 16 wouldGraham: Well our set, our full set, which we
become 7. But 11 stays 11, it doesn’tdon’t get to do very often, it is almost two
become 2, and 22 doesn’t become 4. Sohours .
from a spiritual point of view it’s a niceBetsy: I haven’t seen one yet.
number. But the 11th song didn’t work forGraham: haven’t you?
me, you know, when I was recording the 11th one. ItBetsy: Not a full set, no. Well, I don’t know.
wouldn’t come. It wouldn’t soundI’ve seen the set that I’ve seen
the way I wanted it to sound and I tried like sixfor the past six months. And I don’t recall
times, at different times. And it was going to be aany…
very simple thing with me and the guitar but it justGraham: Right, well we are due to change it up, and,
didn’t sound right.although, we did change it…
But When I played it, when I would sit in a chair toBetsy: Recently, with opening with Even The Nights.
play it, it sounded great. But when I tried to record it,Graham: That’s new this year, yeah.
it just didn’t come out the way I wanted itBetsy: Very cool.
And I kept getting a little frustrated with it. And IGraham: Yeah, I love that. That was actually Jonni's
tried another song and that wasn’t rightidea to open with that. Yeah, and we just moved
either. And so in the end I said it’s gotta bethings around. We moved the Power of Love down.
10. Then I looked at Bob Dylan’s recentBetsy: That was weird for me because I was so
album and he had 10 songs on it. So I thought, ah,used to seeing Power of Love right at the beginning.
people are going back to 10 songs. Because you pickGraham: It’s still weird for me
albums up now and there’s like 17 or 18Betsy: But the way I look at it is it’s like the
songs on it . But most of them are usually crap, yousecond half of the show. It’s like a new
know. They’re not… there’sbeginning.
no value. And I’m thinking why not put 10Graham: It is the second half of the show. Exactly. It
songs on it instead of have 11 songs when one ofstarts the second half.
them isn’t right. But I kept looking at the listBetsy: Very cool. But, we miss the intermission where
of the songs, and they felt right, you know, and theyou say, oh Russell ‘s gone to change his
sequence was right, and I thought, well, I’mpants, have a cup of tea…
gonna go with it. So I kind of broke the cycle of 11.Graham: Right, I know. But I cant do that now
(At this point, someone walked in the room and gavebecause I'm doing that at the front. What I like too is
graham a bag that had some vitamins, lip balm andI like to keep everything evolving, and changing. Now
pens in it. Graham then showed me a bag of vitaminspeople are getting used to me opening up you know.
that he takes.)But then later on when they get used to it, I might
Betsy: You take all those vitamins before the show?swap it around again. That’s what I like. I
Graham: Yeah. (Graham laughs)like to keep everyone on their toes.
Betsy: So that’s where you have all theBetsy: You haven’t done that many shows
energy from?with it.
Graham: I think so. Probably. I hope so. Yeah.Graham: No. Feb 14 I started.
Betsy: You know I actually have a nickname for you.Betsy: What, that’s maybe 15 shows, 10
Graham: What’s that?shows.
Betsy: Tigger.Graham: Yeah. But it took me this long just to figure
Graham: Oh right, yeah! You know, I don’tit out. When I started on Valentines Day to where I
know where that came from, it just happened.am doing now is totally different. Same songs, but oh
It’s only kind of happened in the last 3 or 4I had the lyrics in front of me and I couldn’t
years.remember them, you know. Course I could, but I
Betsy: Really?was freaked.
Graham: I think so, yeah. Well you know, I have soBetsy: Really?
much energy from doing the show. I cant just standGraham: Well, not freaked. I never get nervous. But I
there and just...I mean some songs when they aredidn’t want to mess it up. And when you
mellow songs, I can, but I get so into it that I justare on your own, there is only one person
have to let some of the energy go.responsible and even though the lyrics were in front
Betsy: I love itof me, I’d mess them all up. And I hate
Graham: Oh I , you know what too? It’s areading lyrics from the paper, you know. In fact,
great workout for me too and I look forward toI’d tell the audience, I’d say, well I
that.got all my words down here, and I’d still
Betsy: I’m concerned for your knees!mess it up. So in the end, I just have to take them
Graham: Oh, you know, I actually wear a knee braceaway and I know them.
on my left knee now.Betsy: So for The Future do you have any plans to
Betsy: Really?perform specifically for that?
Graham: Yeah, I actually just put that on last nightGraham: I’d like to. In fact, we rehearsed
for the first time in months. But, yeah, I enjoy itlast week. I rehearsed a band last week. Just for fun.
because it’s just letting some steam off.For three days in Park City, yeah just to…it
But I really like it, yeah.was, what do the politicians call it?...an exploratory
Betsy: Well I love to see the variety. Because youcommittee to run for president. So this was an
typically do it during the same songs.exploratory rehearsal.
Graham: I do, yeah.Betsy: You need donations?
Betsy: And I always know when it’s comingGraham: Yeah, right, always! You know, we just got
but then sometimes you stop. Sometimes you stoptogether and played and we played all the songs
and look at Mike or…from the album. And it was cool. Course it was me,
Graham: Oh yeah? See I don’t even knowMike, Jonni and Stina. I asked Jed to do it but he was
that.on holiday ‘cause it was his birthday. So it
Betsy: It’s fun just to see the variety.was cool. It was weird at first, Russell not being
Graham: Oh really? Oh good, yeah.there, but this is just another flavor you know. But I
Betsy: Well I’m sure it’s allwould like to do some shows. If we had some time
spontaneous.off I’d probably go out and do a couple of
Graham: It is, yeah, but you’re probablyweeks somewhere in small venues and a club in the
right, I do do it in certain songs. There are certainback, back of beyond, you know. And what
songs that are like triggers so if there’s aI’d call it is Graham Russell and The Future.
part… But I never think consciously, oh now ISo the band would be called The Future, which I
gotta jump or anything. I just do it.think is really cool.
Betsy: Well, it’s when there is a certain beatBetsy: Oh really?
and when you get to certain points in the song.Graham: Yeah.
Graham: Yeah.Betsy: That’s so cool,
Betsy: You know, I’ve been to, IGraham: It is, isn’t it. I cant believe no one
don’t know, maybe 20 shows since thehas thought of it!
summer…Betsy: What’s the status of the Heart of
Graham: You have, yeah.the Rose.
Betsy: For me it’s exciting and it’sGraham: Well we’ve done two previews.
very, umm, predictable.We did one in Chicago, and one in New York and
Graham: Right.we’re looking for a lot of money. We
Betsy: You know, so for me, the song list is relativelyhaven’t got what we want yet, but
the same, but I love to see the things that are nowe’ll get it. You know, it’s a long
longer predictable.journey, and there are a lot of obstacles. Because
Graham: Yeah.we are trying to do something different than what a
Betsy: You know, the things that just come up, and Inormal Broadway show is. I mean, in New York we
love that.had a lot of heavy weight Broadway people there
Graham: Yeah, I do too. I would like to do more ofand they’re all saying you cant do it this
that, you know. Russell prefers to be not soway and you cant do that. And I just really
predictable. No, that’s the wrong thing todon’t listen, you know? And…
say. He prefers to know what’s going on.Betsy: You cant.
Yeah, he prefers to know what’s going on.Graham: Well, I cant, no. I don’t want to
Where I’d love to swap things up, but helisten to those people. But it was very successful. It
gets a little nervous when, if I start doing that toowas really cool. And the way it was presented, it
much…which is fair enough.was very different. Normally, there’s four or
Betsy: Well I love it.five people and they read everything from stands
Graham: Oh cool.and they don’t act anything out and they
Betsy: Now I have to apologize, but who is Stina?just stand there or read it and turn pages and sing a
Graham: Stina is, she sang on Across the Concretefew of the songs. But I had five singers and I only
Sky. She’s the girl singer on Shadow of themade a cameo role in half a song. But it was really
Sun. I don’t know if you know that song.cool. The singers were fantastic and they acted it all
Betsy: Oh yeah, I love it.out. And Broadway people aren’t used to
Graham: Yeah, I do too.that. And they were saying, Oh is that the whole
Betsy: It’s beautiful.show? And we’d say, no that’s
Graham: Yeah, I love it. She sang on that. And shenot the whole show…all this stupid stuff. But
sings on my album too. She sings on I think 3 tracks.you know, we’ll get there.
She’s a great singer. She’s anRichard Branson is a real mentor figure for me and I
opera singer, and she’s 28, andread something which I usually tell everyone. I read
she’s married. But she’s got aan article on a plane about him and it said, you know
great voice and I love her voice. I really do. And mywhen you’ve got a new idea or something
songs are very suited for her. She writes her ownnew, he says, everybody will say no to it
songs too and does all that, but for my songs, her‘cause they’re frightened of it.
voice is great, you know, as a female voice and IAnd he said, so get ready for them all to say no.
thought it would be fun to use her again.And he said, unless they say no, you’re on
Betsy: Is she from the Salt Lake City area?the wrong track and you’re not doing
Graham: She is, yeah.anything new or spiritual or innovative. He said
Betsy: I know you have talked about her, but I justthey’re gonna say no. But right at the end,
didn’t know who she was.somebody will say yes and understand it and go
Graham: I also used another girl, a young girl, 19boom! And the light will go on. And he said,
years old. Megan Olson (sp?) is from Salt Lake. Shethat’s being creative and that’s
never played, never sang on a record before Andbeing a leader and doing something that
she sings on a song called Restless, which younobody’s done before. And I’ll
haven’t heard yet. It’s pretty cool.never forget that. Cause he’s one of those
Betsy: I almost have all of the songs written down.people. You know, I wanna do something different
I’ve got Make You Mine, The Future, Lacefor Broadway, you know.
and Leather, Let Yourself Go, Save the World, ThisBetsy: So is that where you intend to…
Time, Our Love and Restless.Graham: I wanna open it in England, in Nottingham
Graham: How many is that?first for like a month and then take it to the West
Betsy: Eight.End. But it’ll happen you know, in its time. I
Graham: What’s missing? Let Yourself Go,mean, it’s becoming a lot of years so far.
do you have that?Yep, a long time. But I don’t need it to
Betsy: Yes, well of course I have that one!happen. But it’ll happen.
Graham: Of course you do, yeah. You got, LetBetsy: So it occupies a lot of your time,
Yourself Go…Love Is Warm, you have that?obviously…it’s a long process.
Betsy: NoGraham: Yeah, well, it doesn’t occupy a lot
Graham: Love Is Warm?of my time now ‘cause it’s
Betsy: Love Is Warm, yeah.finished. So when the impetus is ready for
Graham: Third is Lace and Leather, Our Love, Makeanother...we’re talking about doing one in
you Mine…Los Angeles, another preview. We’ll do it.
Betsy: So This Time is the First Time… is itBut there’s no pressure to do it. I mean,
called This Time?we have certain funds for it, but we don’t
Graham: It’s called This Time, yeah.have what we want, what we’re after.
Betsy: And that’s on there? That’sWe’re after 10 million dollars you know.
nice, it’s lovely.Betsy: If I had it, I would give it to you.
Graham: Yeah, it’s on there, yeah. That wasGraham: Oh I know you would! But we’ll get
one of the first I recorded actually.it’s Thisit.
Time, Restless, oh Fall With You? Do you have that?Betsy: Are you working on any other projects?...That
Betsy: Fall With You?you can share?
Graham: So that’s 10, that’s all ofGraham: I’m doing the music for a movie, I
them.just discovered two days ago, which is a small movie.
Betsy: Do you have a favorite?It’s coming out of Utah. And I've read the
Graham: Well, I’m very fond of Lace andscript and I think it’s really cool.
Leather, you know, and, but I love The Future too.There’s only I think six or seven people in it.
Betsy: I love The Future. I mean, so I’veSo it’s a very low budget small movie and
only heard 3 of the songs, no, actually I’veits really cute and very cool. And they asked me to
heard more because when you did some of thewrite the music and so, I did, well, I am.
songs at Fan Day…I’ve already written the title song for it,
Graham: In Laughlin.which is really cool. And so I’m doing that.
Betsy: And I did love Let Yourself Go.And what else am I doing? I’m spending a
Graham: Yeah.lot of time now doing promotion for The Future.
Betsy: I have to say I love that.I’ve just been getting a lot of promotion
Graham: I do too.for it. But I’m not really working on anything
Betsy: But you singing The Future, I really love it.else.
Graham: I love singing that too. So, did I play it then?Betsy: What’s the status of the Air Supply
I cant remember.CD?
Betsy: I don’t know. You played 5 songs inGraham: You know at the moment it’s a
Laughlin but I don’t know…little bit in limbo only because we just
Graham: I don’t think I played that, Ihaven’t all got together, you know? I mean,
don’t think I played itthe songs are there. Originally I was gonna do the
Betsy: I don’t remember which ones theyZed project, which I wanted it to be a theatrical
were. I recorded a couple little pieces here and there,thing. Not live on stage like theater. I wanted it to be
but probably just a few seconds.like a concept, you know, but I don’t know
Graham: No I don’t think I played it.about that anymore because it’s been a
That’s got Lewis Clark’s stringcouple years since that. And I wrote all the songs for
arrangement on it, which is amazing.it, and everything. And Russell heard them, loved
Betsy: Which song?them. But now I’ve kinda got off that a
Graham: The Future. He did The Future and he didlittle bit because it’s been a long time.
Our Love. Did I play Our Love? I did.Betsy: So do you think that we’ll see a CD
Betsy: I think you did. That sounds familiar.in 2007 from Air Supply?
Graham: Yeah. Yeah. He did the string arrangementGraham: Where are we now, March? I think so, yeah.
on that too. He’s amazing. He’s theThe end of this year.
guy from ELO from the 70s, right.Betsy: But you’re not quite sure what it will
Betsy: Really?be?
Graham: Do you know the Electric Light Orchestra?Graham: People ask me, and it will probably be
Betsy: I’ve heard of them, yeah. (laughing)towards the end like autumn, fall, yeah. I mean, a lot
Graham: Oh, they’re fabulous.of songs are already recorded. We recorded Miracles,
Betsy: I was born in ‘69 so I know a littlewhich we already gave on the side, Faith in Love,
bit from the 70s.which now there are three versions of Faith in Love.
Graham: Oh, ok, right. Yeah, he’s myBetsy: I like the second to last one.
favorite string arranger. I use him all the time. Yeah,Graham: Which one was that?
he’s great. Once again, he’s veryBetsy: The one before this one. I just have to say,
sympathetic to my songs. I call him up and say, arefrom a personal perspective I really miss you playing
you available to do an arrangement? And I’llthe guitar in the beginning.
send him the tracks, you know. But I don’tGraham: I play it though.
send him any ideas or anything. He’ll listen toBetsy: No, no, no…in the very beginning. Now
the track and he’ll call me up and say,you are clapping and you’re getting
I’m ready to do the arrangement. Andeverybody moving…
he’ll never say, what do you want, orGraham: Right yeah, but I bring it in.
anything. And I’ll say, you know what to do,Betsy: And Jed’s just kind of standing
right? And he says, oh yeah, I know what to do.there…
Betsy: Really?Graham: Yeah, no we took all the synthesizers out.
Graham: Yeah, and it’s great. So I neverOnly because we’ve been doing it for a
hear the arrangement til we’re in the studioyear.
with the orchestra.Betsy: But I love that other version. But
Betsy: So kind of how you write for Russell, hethat’s just me. Other people say they like
arranges for you?the new one too.
Graham: Yeah. He just does it. Yeah. But he knowsGraham: No that’s cool.
that I love ELO stuff. All the da da da da da da daBetsy: I really love to see you play the guitar and
da da da da da da. I love all that. Yeah, fabulous.that’s one of the reasons I love seeing you,
Betsy: Yeah, I remember some of their music fromwhat is it, is it Make You Mine that you do that in?
way back...when.Graham: Yeah. We needed to, well, I needed, too, to
Graham: Oh, they’re great, they’rechange it up because we’ve been doing it
great.for a year. And every year, historically, I change the
Betsy: So your favorite song then is?set up or bring new songs in. I didn’t this
Graham: Well, you know, I can’t reallyyear because I knew a lot of people really liked Faith
narrow it down because there are a lot of differentin Love and I do too. But I needed to change it up or
textures and different...all the songs are different.it was coming out because I cant, I can only do it for
There’s only really one big ballad, which isso long that way. All of them, Even the
Our Love. There’s Let Yourself Go, which isNights…they all need to be changed up a little,
very upbeat, very techno.you know?
Betsy: Love it!Betsy: What about Sweet Dreams? You’ve
Graham: Yeah, I do too.been doing The River for...
Betsy: I heard that one and said I can not wait toGraham: Yeah, we have, yeah. Well, I love the poem
get that CD!thing, we all do and I’m not ready to lose
Graham: Yeah, it’s...I think you’llthat yet. And maybe I’ll bring it in with
really dig it, you know. But The Future for me, theanother poem somewhere else. ‘Cause I like
song The Future is probably my favorite.that element, the spoken word. In fact, when we
Betsy: I love that one. You change the words up afirst started that, I was really…I thought wow,
little in some of your songs when you sing them live.are people gonna get it? But people really get it.
Graham: Do I?Betsy: People today, people who haven’t
Betsy: Yeah, a little bit.ever seen a show, they’re wondering, what
Graham: Oh. Make You Mine, I got a little lost in Makeis this and then all of a sudden Close Your
You Mine last night.Eyes… and people are like ooooohhhh,
Betsy: Yeah, well, for me, I’m like, well, isit’s sweet dreams!
he? Or is that really the way it goes. I can’tGraham: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tell. But I did record in Vegas the songs twice.Betsy: Fabulous.
Graham: Were they different?Graham: Yeah I like that.
Betsy: A little bit.Betsy: Ok, here are some more questions. When you
Graham: Well, I started on February 14th opening.look out into the audience, do you appreciate seeing
And it took me pretty much up until now to really nailfamiliar faces?
the words, which sounds strange becauseGraham: Yes, we get used to them.
they’re my songs. But there’s a lotBetsy: What would you consider the greatest
of words to remember, especially on The Future,moment in your career?
there’s a lot of words to remember.Graham: I hope I haven’t had it yet. Really. I
Betsy: It’s so beautiful.hope I haven’t had it yet.
Graham: Thanks.Betsy: Is there anything you haven’t done
Betsy: And, it gets great compliments from people.yet that you would like to?
Graham: Oh does it? See I don’t hear them.Graham: Yeah, I would love win an Oscar for some
Betsy: Oh yeah, people talk about it a lot. Ok, somusic I write.
there’s the Now and Forever forum whereBetsy: Really?
people comment on it. But on YouTube, I seeGraham: Yeah. I would.
comments on there very once in a while. People willBetsy: What would you like to be doing in five years?
post comments on each of the individual videos. SoGraham: This. Exactly this. You know, the Rolling
you can always look there for the comments. I loveStones are our model. We are still young and age is
it. I mean I posted up two videos, Make you Minejust a number. We plan to be around for many
and Lace and Leather the first night from Vegas andyears, as long as we can. I don’t know why
the next day I recorded The Future and I posted uppeople think we are going anywhere.
that. And then I did Make you Mine and Lace andBetsy: With all of your writing, do you know the
Leather again. I kept all five of them up on YouTubegreatest number of songs written in a short period
‘cause I just couldn’t take themof time?
off. I couldn’t take the other two off and IGraham: No, not really. Usually, they all come
think I told you last night that Make You Mine hastogether, fast and furious, one right after another.
1,200...I’ll be writing one and another one will come
Graham: 1,200 you said. That’s 1,200 peopleright after.